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Judlit: /* Summoning Skill Level Required */

2023-05-29T18:37:55Z

Summoning Skill Level Required

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	I like Alley Oop's suggestion, "can i request a couple of fields for the creature box? tameable (yes/no) and, if so, summoning skill level required (number)". But that was posted 26 Sept 2021, and I don't see those changes.		I like Alley Oop's suggestion, "can i request a couple of fields for the creature box? tameable (yes/no) and, if so, summoning skill level required (number)". But that was posted 26 Sept 2021, and I don't see those changes.

	*Traditionally, we define the pet name and required summoning level on individual pages, (each ostensibly describing the taming necklace for one of the creatures which may be tamed). I made ~~a few~~ changes to page Summonable Pets, (which tabulates ~~tamed creatures~~ by their required summoning levels~~), and template Taming Necklace (Pet) recently: they seem to be working well~~. Also, template Taming Necklace (Pet) now uses (non-existent?) category Taming Necklaces, so these dozens of pages no longer clutter up category Pets.		*Traditionally, we define the pet name and required summoning level on individual pages, (each ostensibly describing the taming necklace for one of the creatures which may be tamed). I made some changes to page Taming Necklace Summoning Levels, (recently renamed from Summonable Pets), which tabulates taming necklaces by their required summoning levels. Also, template Taming Necklace (Pet) now uses (non-existent?) category Taming Necklaces, so these dozens of pages no longer clutter up category Pets.

	*Alternatively, I've begun inserting the required summoning skill level, explicitly, into the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable for this purpose, (cleverly disguised as a link to page Tamed Pet Summoning Levels): insert it under "See Also". Then page Tamed Pet Summoning Levels tabulates these pets by their required summoning levels.		*Alternatively, I've begun inserting the required summoning skill level, explicitly, into the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable for this purpose, (cleverly disguised as a link to page Tamed Pet Summoning Levels): insert it under "See Also". Then page Tamed Pet Summoning Levels tabulates these pets by their required summoning levels.

	I like the second approach: It creates the same information, without requiring a separate page to describe each and every creature's required summoning level. On the other hand, I've added a "Last Seen" field to template Taming Necklace (Pet), thus providing a way to determine whether the summoning levels tabulated at Summonable Pets are current. Both approaches are in use: Tamed Pet Summoning Levels is more complete at present		I like the second approach: It creates the same information, without requiring a separate page to describe each and every creature's required summoning level. On the other hand, I've added a "Last Seen" field to template Taming Necklace (Pet), thus providing a way to determine whether the summoning levels tabulated at Summonable Pets are current. Both approaches are still in use: Tamed Pet Summoning Levels is more complete at present

	[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 11:41, 29 May 2023 (MDT)		[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 12:37, 29 May 2023 (MDT)

Judlit: /* Summoning Skill Level Required */

2023-05-29T17:41:49Z

Summoning Skill Level Required

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	*Alternatively, I've begun inserting the required summoning skill level, explicitly, into the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable for this purpose, (cleverly disguised as a link to page Tamed Pet Summoning Levels): insert it under "See Also". Then page Tamed Pet Summoning Levels tabulates these pets by their required summoning levels.		*Alternatively, I've begun inserting the required summoning skill level, explicitly, into the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable for this purpose, (cleverly disguised as a link to page Tamed Pet Summoning Levels): insert it under "See Also". Then page Tamed Pet Summoning Levels tabulates these pets by their required summoning levels.

	~~Both approaches work, but~~ I ~~prefer~~ the second approach. It creates the same information, without requiring a separate page to describe each and every creature's required summoning level. ~~While page Summonable Pets remains~~, I ~~am converting pages which linked~~ to Taming Necklace (Pet) to use ~~template~~ Summoning ~~instead.~~		I like the second approach: It creates the same information, without requiring a separate page to describe each and every creature's required summoning level. On the other hand, I've added a "Last Seen" field to template Taming Necklace (Pet), thus providing a way to determine whether the summoning levels tabulated at Summonable Pets are current. Both approaches are in use: Tamed Pet Summoning Levels is more complete at present

	[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 18:27, 16 May 2023 (MDT)		[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 11:41, 29 May 2023 (MDT)

Judlit: /* Summoning Skill Level Required */

2023-05-17T00:27:51Z

Summoning Skill Level Required

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	I like Alley Oop's suggestion, "can i request a couple of fields for the creature box? tameable (yes/no) and, if so, summoning skill level required (number)". But that was posted 26 Sept 2021, and I don't see those changes.		I like Alley Oop's suggestion, "can i request a couple of fields for the creature box? tameable (yes/no) and, if so, summoning skill level required (number)". But that was posted 26 Sept 2021, and I don't see those changes.

	*Traditionally, we define the pet name and required summoning level on individual pages, (ostensibly describing the taming ~~necklaces~~ for ~~each~~ of the creatures which may be tamed). I ~~have~~ made a few changes to page Summonable Pets, and template Taming Necklace (Pet) recently: they seem to be working well. Also, template Taming Necklace (Pet) now uses (non-existent?) category Taming Necklaces, so these dozens of pages no longer clutter up category Pets.		*Traditionally, we define the pet name and required summoning level on individual pages, (each ostensibly describing the taming necklace for one of the creatures which may be tamed). I made a few changes to page Summonable Pets, (which tabulates tamed creatures by their required summoning levels), and template Taming Necklace (Pet) recently: they seem to be working well. Also, template Taming Necklace (Pet) now uses (non-existent?) category Taming Necklaces, so these dozens of pages no longer clutter up category Pets.

	*Alternatively, I've begun inserting the required summoning skill level, explicitly, into the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable for this purpose, (cleverly disguised as a link to page Tamed ~~Creature~~ Summoning Levels): insert it under "See Also". Then page Tamed ~~Creature~~ Summoning Levels tabulates these pets by their required summoning levels.		*Alternatively, I've begun inserting the required summoning skill level, explicitly, into the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable for this purpose, (cleverly disguised as a link to page Tamed Pet Summoning Levels): insert it under "See Also". Then page Tamed Pet Summoning Levels tabulates these pets by their required summoning levels.

	Both approaches work, but I prefer the second approach. It creates the same information, without requiring a separate page to describe each and every creature's required summoning level. While page Summonable Pets remains, I am converting pages which linked to Taming Necklace (Pet) to use template Summoning instead.		Both approaches work, but I prefer the second approach. It creates the same information, without requiring a separate page to describe each and every creature's required summoning level. While page Summonable Pets remains, I am converting pages which linked to Taming Necklace (Pet) to use template Summoning instead.

	[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 07:00, 13 May 2023 (MDT)		[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 18:27, 16 May 2023 (MDT)

Judlit: /* Summoning Skill Level Required */

2023-05-13T13:00:11Z

Summoning Skill Level Required

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	*Traditionally, we define the pet name and required summoning level on individual pages, (ostensibly describing the taming necklaces for each of the creatures which may be tamed). I have made a few changes to page Summonable Pets, and template Taming Necklace (Pet) recently: they seem to be working well. Also, template Taming Necklace (Pet) now uses (non-existent?) category Taming Necklaces, so these dozens of pages no longer clutter up category Pets.		*Traditionally, we define the pet name and required summoning level on individual pages, (ostensibly describing the taming necklaces for each of the creatures which may be tamed). I have made a few changes to page Summonable Pets, and template Taming Necklace (Pet) recently: they seem to be working well. Also, template Taming Necklace (Pet) now uses (non-existent?) category Taming Necklaces, so these dozens of pages no longer clutter up category Pets.

	*Alternatively, I've begun inserting the required summoning skill level, explicitly, into the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable for this purpose, (cleverly disguised as a link to page Tamed Creature Summoning Levels): insert it under "See Also". Then page Tamed Creature Summoning Levels tabulates these pets by their required summoning levels~~. Only a few pages use this approach so far: it also seems to be working well~~.		*Alternatively, I've begun inserting the required summoning skill level, explicitly, into the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable for this purpose, (cleverly disguised as a link to page Tamed Creature Summoning Levels): insert it under "See Also". Then page Tamed Creature Summoning Levels tabulates these pets by their required summoning levels.

	I ~~like~~ the second approach~~, (unless maintainers of the individual creature pages object?)~~. It creates the same information, without ~~creating~~ a separate page to describe each and every creature's required summoning level.		Both approaches work, but I prefer the second approach. It creates the same information, without requiring a separate page to describe each and every creature's required summoning level. While page Summonable Pets remains, I am converting pages which linked to Taming Necklace (Pet) to use template Summoning instead.

	[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 07:49, 10 May 2023 (MDT)		[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 07:00, 13 May 2023 (MDT)

Judlit: /* Summoning Skill Level Required */

2023-05-10T19:58:50Z

Summoning Skill Level Required

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	I like Alley Oop's suggestion, "can i request a couple of fields for the creature box? tameable (yes/no) and, if so, summoning skill level required (number)". But that was posted 26 Sept 2021, and I don't see those changes.		I like Alley Oop's suggestion, "can i request a couple of fields for the creature box? tameable (yes/no) and, if so, summoning skill level required (number)". But that was posted 26 Sept 2021, and I don't see those changes.

	*Traditionally, we define the pet name and required summoning level on individual pages, (ostensibly describing the taming necklaces for each of the creatures which may be tamed). I have made a few changes to page Summonable Pets, and template Taming Necklace (Pet) recently: they seem to be working. Also, template Taming Necklace (Pet) now uses (non-existent?) category Taming Necklaces, so these dozens of pages no longer clutter up category Pets.		*Traditionally, we define the pet name and required summoning level on individual pages, (ostensibly describing the taming necklaces for each of the creatures which may be tamed). I have made a few changes to page Summonable Pets, and template Taming Necklace (Pet) recently: they seem to be working well. Also, template Taming Necklace (Pet) now uses (non-existent?) category Taming Necklaces, so these dozens of pages no longer clutter up category Pets.

	*Alternatively, I've begun inserting the required summoning skill level, explicitly, into the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable for this purpose, (cleverly disguised as a link to Tamed Creature Summoning Levels: insert it under "See Also"). Then ~~new~~ page Tamed Creature Summoning Levels tabulates these pets ~~and~~ their summoning levels. Only a few pages use this approach so far: ~~a small test of concept~~.		*Alternatively, I've begun inserting the required summoning skill level, explicitly, into the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable for this purpose, (cleverly disguised as a link to page Tamed Creature Summoning Levels): insert it under "See Also". Then page Tamed Creature Summoning Levels tabulates these pets by their required summoning levels. Only a few pages use this approach so far: it also seems to be working well.

	I like the second approach, (unless maintainers of the individual creature pages object?). It creates the same information, without creating a separate page to describe each and every creature's required summoning level.		I like the second approach, (unless maintainers of the individual creature pages object?). It creates the same information, without creating a separate page to describe each and every creature's required summoning level.

	[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 07:49, 10 May 2023 (MDT)		[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 07:49, 10 May 2023 (MDT)

Judlit: /* Summoning Skill Level Required */

2023-05-10T13:49:28Z

Summoning Skill Level Required

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	I like Alley Oop's suggestion, "can i request a couple of fields for the creature box? tameable (yes/no) and, if so, summoning skill level required (number)". But that was posted 26 Sept 2021, and I don't see those changes.		I like Alley Oop's suggestion, "can i request a couple of fields for the creature box? tameable (yes/no) and, if so, summoning skill level required (number)". But that was posted 26 Sept 2021, and I don't see those changes.

	~~We currently~~ define the pet name and required summoning level on individual pages, (ostensibly describing the taming necklaces for each of the creatures which may be tamed). I have ~~recently~~ made a few changes to page Summonable Pets, and template Taming Necklace (Pet): they seem to be working. Also, template Taming Necklace (Pet) now uses (non-existent) category Taming Necklaces, so these dozens of pages ~~don't~~ clutter up category Pets.		*Traditionally, we define the pet name and required summoning level on individual pages, (ostensibly describing the taming necklaces for each of the creatures which may be tamed). I have made a few changes to page Summonable Pets, and template Taming Necklace (Pet) recently: they seem to be working. Also, template Taming Necklace (Pet) now uses (non-existent?) category Taming Necklaces, so these dozens of pages no longer clutter up category Pets.

	Alternatively, ~~we might insert~~ the summoning skill level ~~required~~, explicitly, into the pages of creatures which are tameable~~. New page Tamed Creature Summoning Levels tabulates these pets and their summoning levels~~. I created template Summonable for this purpose, (cleverly disguised as a link to Tamed Creature Summoning Levels: insert it under "See ~~also~~"). ~~Currently,~~ page ~~Ferocious Brown Spider is the only one which uses~~ this approach: a small test of concept.		*Alternatively, I've begun inserting the required summoning skill level, explicitly, into the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable for this purpose, (cleverly disguised as a link to Tamed Creature Summoning Levels: insert it under "See Also"). Then new page Tamed Creature Summoning Levels tabulates these pets and their summoning levels. Only a few pages use this approach so far: a small test of concept.

	~~If we were to do this for all creatures which may be tamed~~, of ~~course~~, ~~we would have~~ to ~~add template Summonable to the pages of dozens of creatures: most of them created by others~~.		I like the second approach, (unless maintainers of the individual creature pages object?). It creates the same information, without creating a separate page to describe each and every creature's required summoning level.

	~~Which approach do you think we should go with?~~		[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 07:49, 10 May 2023 (MDT)

	[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 15:11, 8 May 2023 (MDT)

Judlit: /* Summoning Skill Level Required */

2023-05-08T21:11:10Z

Summoning Skill Level Required

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	I like Alley Oop's suggestion, "can i request a couple of fields for the creature box? tameable (yes/no) and, if so, summoning skill level required (number)". But that was posted 26 Sept 2021, and I don't see those changes.		I like Alley Oop's suggestion, "can i request a couple of fields for the creature box? tameable (yes/no) and, if so, summoning skill level required (number)". But that was posted 26 Sept 2021, and I don't see those changes.

	I ~~thought~~ we might ~~address this by adding~~ the summoning skill level required, explicitly, on the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable, (~~the summoning skill level required is the single parameter), and revised page Known~~ Summoning Levels ~~to tabulate the pets and summoning levels~~. Currently, page Ferocious Brown Spider is the only one which uses ~~template Summonable~~: a small test of concept.		We currently define the pet name and required summoning level on individual pages, (ostensibly describing the taming necklaces for each of the creatures which may be tamed). I have recently made a few changes to page Summonable Pets, and template Taming Necklace (Pet): they seem to be working. Also, template Taming Necklace (Pet) now uses (non-existent) category Taming Necklaces, so these dozens of pages don't clutter up category Pets.

			Alternatively, we might insert the summoning skill level required, explicitly, into the pages of creatures which are tameable. New page Tamed Creature Summoning Levels tabulates these pets and their summoning levels. I created template Summonable for this purpose, (cleverly disguised as a link to Tamed Creature Summoning Levels: insert it under "See also"). Currently, page Ferocious Brown Spider is the only one which uses this approach: a small test of concept.

	If we were to do this for all creatures which may be tamed, of course, we would have to add template Summonable to the pages of dozens of creatures: most of them created by others.		If we were to do this for all creatures which may be tamed, of course, we would have to add template Summonable to the pages of dozens of creatures: most of them created by others.

	The current approach is to define the name and required summoning level on a separate page, Taming Necklace (Pet), for each creature which may be tamed. I am currently revising this approach, and the resulting table of Summonable Pets, using what I've learned in the creation of template Summonable.

	Which approach do you think we should go with?		Which approach do you think we should go with?

	[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 15:14, 6 May 2023 (MDT)		[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 15:11, 8 May 2023 (MDT)

Judlit: /* Summoning Skill Level Required */

2023-05-06T21:14:50Z

Summoning Skill Level Required

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	I thought we might address this by adding the summoning skill level required, explicitly, on the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable, (the summoning skill level required is the single parameter), and revised page Known Summoning Levels to tabulate the pets and summoning levels. Currently, page Ferocious Brown Spider is the only one which uses template Summonable: a small test of concept.		I thought we might address this by adding the summoning skill level required, explicitly, on the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable, (the summoning skill level required is the single parameter), and revised page Known Summoning Levels to tabulate the pets and summoning levels. Currently, page Ferocious Brown Spider is the only one which uses template Summonable: a small test of concept.

	~~I like having a list~~ of ~~known summoning levels. It helps me know which pet I might want~~ to ~~tame next. But I don't like~~ dozens of ~~"Taming Necklace (Pet)" pages clogging Category~~:~~Pets. This approach solves both problems and, as a bonus, shows the name~~ of ~~the tamed creature, not "Taming Necklace (tamed creature)"~~.		If we were to do this for all creatures which may be tamed, of course, we would have to add template Summonable to the pages of dozens of creatures: most of them created by others.

	~~Of course~~, ~~it would require adding template~~ Summonable to the ~~pages~~ of ~~dozens of creatures: most of them created by others~~.		The current approach is to define the name and required summoning level on a separate page, Taming Necklace (Pet), for each creature which may be tamed. I am currently revising this approach, and the resulting table of Summonable Pets, using what I've learned in the creation of template Summonable.

	Alternatively, I can probably move the juicy goodness from template Summonable into template Taming Necklace (Pet); create new Category:Taming Necklaces, (so as not to clutter Category:Pets); and let Known Summoning Levels tabulate those. Come to think ~~of it, this is pretty much what Summonable Pets does now. Either one of these approaches~~ should ~~work, we probably don't need both.~~		Which approach do you think we should go with?

	~~What do you think?~~		[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 15:14, 6 May 2023 (MDT)

	[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 15:27, 5 May 2023 (MDT)

Judlit: /* Summoning Skill Level Required */

2023-05-05T21:27:05Z

Summoning Skill Level Required

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	I like having a list of known summoning levels. It helps me know which pet I might want to tame next. But I don't like dozens of "Taming Necklace (Pet)" pages clogging Category:Pets. This approach solves both problems and, as a bonus, shows the name of the tamed creature, not "Taming Necklace (tamed creature)".		I like having a list of known summoning levels. It helps me know which pet I might want to tame next. But I don't like dozens of "Taming Necklace (Pet)" pages clogging Category:Pets. This approach solves both problems and, as a bonus, shows the name of the tamed creature, not "Taming Necklace (tamed creature)".

	Of course, it would require adding ~~Template::~~Summonable to the pages of dozens of creatures: most of them created by others.		Of course, it would require adding template Summonable to the pages of dozens of creatures: most of them created by others.

			Alternatively, I can probably move the juicy goodness from template Summonable into template Taming Necklace (Pet); create new Category:Taming Necklaces, (so as not to clutter Category:Pets); and let Known Summoning Levels tabulate those. Come to think of it, this is pretty much what Summonable Pets does now. Either one of these approaches should work, we probably don't need both.

	What do you think?		What do you think?

	[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 07:56, 5 May 2023 (MDT)		[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 15:27, 5 May 2023 (MDT)

Judlit: /* Summoning Skill Level Required */

2023-05-05T16:27:18Z

Summoning Skill Level Required

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	I like Alley Oop's suggestion, "can i request a couple of fields for the creature box? tameable (yes/no) and, if so, summoning skill level required (number)". But that was posted 26 Sept 2021, and I don't see those changes.		I like Alley Oop's suggestion, "can i request a couple of fields for the creature box? tameable (yes/no) and, if so, summoning skill level required (number)". But that was posted 26 Sept 2021, and I don't see those changes.

	I thought we might address this by adding the summoning skill level required, explicitly, on the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created ~~Template::~~Summonable, and revised page Known Summoning Levels to ~~query~~ the summoning ~~skill level required~~. ~~Only the~~ page Ferocious Brown Spider ~~currently~~ uses ~~said~~ template~~, (~~a small test of concept).		I thought we might address this by adding the summoning skill level required, explicitly, on the pages of creatures which are tameable. I created template Summonable, (the summoning skill level required is the single parameter), and revised page Known Summoning Levels to tabulate the pets and summoning levels. Currently, page Ferocious Brown Spider is the only one which uses template Summonable: a small test of concept.

	I like having a list of known summoning levels. It helps me know which pet I might want to tame next. But I don't like dozens of "Taming Necklace (Pet)" pages clogging Category:Pets. This approach solves both problems and, as a bonus, shows the name of the tamed creature, not "Taming Necklace (tamed creature)".		I like having a list of known summoning levels. It helps me know which pet I might want to tame next. But I don't like dozens of "Taming Necklace (Pet)" pages clogging Category:Pets. This approach solves both problems and, as a bonus, shows the name of the tamed creature, not "Taming Necklace (tamed creature)".

	Of course, it would require adding Template::Summonable to the pages dozens of creatures: ~~pages~~ created by others.		Of course, it would require adding Template::Summonable to the pages of dozens of creatures: most of them created by others.

	What do you think?		What do you think?

	[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 07:56, 5 May 2023 (MDT)		[[User:Judlit\|Judlit]] ([[User talk:Judlit\|talk]]) 07:56, 5 May 2023 (MDT)