Category talk:Craftable Decorations - Revision history

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	:::Maybe we can get the best of both worlds with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryMagicWords - the discoverability of putting what groups the articles belong to in the categories, with the improved L&F of the SMW template? [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br><br>		:::Maybe we can get the best of both worlds with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryMagicWords - the discoverability of putting what groups the articles belong to in the categories, with the improved L&F of the SMW template? [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br><br>
	::::I took at look at that extension; as far as I can tell, it does the same thing I was proposing by moving the articles to a different namespace, and only showing them on queries. It should eliminate the search issues, unclog the categories, and still leave us with pages for each unique craftable. I'm going to plan on that change, as soon as we can get the additional namespaces set up. For now, I wouldn't worry about crafted items in the wiki. There seem to be a number of changes on the horizon, so I'd hate to have to make even more edits that we already will. There's a lot of other things that need attention tho! Thanks! --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 16:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)		::::I took at look at that extension; as far as I can tell, it does the same thing I was proposing by moving the articles to a different namespace, and only showing them on queries. It should eliminate the search issues, unclog the categories, and still leave us with pages for each unique craftable. I'm going to plan on that change, as soon as we can get the additional namespaces set up. For now, I wouldn't worry about crafted items in the wiki. There seem to be a number of changes on the horizon, so I'd hate to have to make even more edits that we already will. There's a lot of other things that need attention tho! Thanks! --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 16:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
			:::::Craftable and Craftable Decorations are two different things. I think adding an attribute "decoration" and setting it to "lot/town/no" is a good idea. This would allow people to then query the item AND it would show important information in the infobox that many people want to know. Did you know a fish was a decoration before it's mounted? Having that in the infobox helps people come up with the data faster and allows a better query for MW lists. Just a thought! [[User:Violation\|Violation]] ([[User talk:Violation\|talk]]) 07:41, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Browncoat Jayson at 16:11, 1 September 2016

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	::Which can be included in a template and placed on any page, and dynamically updates. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)		::Which can be included in a template and placed on any page, and dynamically updates. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)<br><br>
	:::I see what you're saying- I'm not sure how I feel about it, though, MW already has a mechanism to group together several dozen similar articles & it works very well. With this, we have the choice of either making a standalone page and shoving it in the See Also section, or sticking the template into the page itself. Neither one of them is great for discoverability since the first one sticks it in a link that users will often ignore in favor of checking the categories, and the other grabs a ton of vertical space for information the user may or may not find useful. [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)		:::I see what you're saying- I'm not sure how I feel about it, though, MW already has a mechanism to group together several dozen similar articles & it works very well. With this, we have the choice of either making a standalone page and shoving it in the See Also section, or sticking the template into the page itself. Neither one of them is great for discoverability since the first one sticks it in a link that users will often ignore in favor of checking the categories, and the other grabs a ton of vertical space for information the user may or may not find useful. [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br><br>
			:::Maybe we can get the best of both worlds with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryMagicWords - the discoverability of putting what groups the articles belong to in the categories, with the improved L&F of the SMW template? [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br><br>
	:::Maybe we can get the best of both worlds with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryMagicWords - the discoverability of putting what groups the articles belong to in the categories, with the improved L&F of the SMW template? [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)		::::I took at look at that extension; as far as I can tell, it does the same thing I was proposing by moving the articles to a different namespace, and only showing them on queries. It should eliminate the search issues, unclog the categories, and still leave us with pages for each unique craftable. I'm going to plan on that change, as soon as we can get the additional namespaces set up. For now, I wouldn't worry about crafted items in the wiki. There seem to be a number of changes on the horizon, so I'd hate to have to make even more edits that we already will. There's a lot of other things that need attention tho! Thanks! --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 16:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

CanVox at 07:16, 1 September 2016

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	::Which can be included in a template and placed on any page, and dynamically updates. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)		::Which can be included in a template and placed on any page, and dynamically updates. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
	:::I see what you're saying- I'm not sure how I feel about it, though, MW already has a mechanism to group together several dozen similar articles & it works very well. With this, we have the choice of either making a standalone page and shoving it in the See Also section, or sticking the template into the page itself. Neither one of them is great for discoverability since the first one sticks it in a link that users will often ignore in favor of checking the categories, and the other grabs a ton of vertical space for information the user may or may not find useful. [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)		:::I see what you're saying- I'm not sure how I feel about it, though, MW already has a mechanism to group together several dozen similar articles & it works very well. With this, we have the choice of either making a standalone page and shoving it in the See Also section, or sticking the template into the page itself. Neither one of them is great for discoverability since the first one sticks it in a link that users will often ignore in favor of checking the categories, and the other grabs a ton of vertical space for information the user may or may not find useful. [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

	:::Maybe we can get the best of both worlds with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryMagicWords - the discoverability of putting what groups the articles belong to in the categories, with the improved L&F of the SMW template? [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)		:::Maybe we can get the best of both worlds with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryMagicWords - the discoverability of putting what groups the articles belong to in the categories, with the improved L&F of the SMW template? [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

CanVox at 07:16, 1 September 2016

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	::Which can be included in a template and placed on any page, and dynamically updates. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)		::Which can be included in a template and placed on any page, and dynamically updates. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
	:::I see what you're saying- I'm not sure how I feel about it, though, MW already has a mechanism to group together several dozen similar articles & it works very well. With this, we have the choice of either making a standalone page and shoving it in the See Also section, or sticking the template into the page itself. Neither one of them is great for discoverability since the first one sticks it in a link that users will often ignore in favor of checking the categories, and the other grabs a ton of vertical space for information the user may or may not find useful. [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)		:::I see what you're saying- I'm not sure how I feel about it, though, MW already has a mechanism to group together several dozen similar articles & it works very well. With this, we have the choice of either making a standalone page and shoving it in the See Also section, or sticking the template into the page itself. Neither one of them is great for discoverability since the first one sticks it in a link that users will often ignore in favor of checking the categories, and the other grabs a ton of vertical space for information the user may or may not find useful. [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
	:::Maybe we can get the best of both worlds with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryMagicWords - the discoverability of putting what groups the articles belong to in the categories, with the improved L&F of the SMW template?		:::Maybe we can get the best of both worlds with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryMagicWords - the discoverability of putting what groups the articles belong to in the categories, with the improved L&F of the SMW template? [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

CanVox at 07:16, 1 September 2016

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	::Which can be included in a template and placed on any page, and dynamically updates. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)		::Which can be included in a template and placed on any page, and dynamically updates. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
	:::I see what you're saying- I'm not sure how I feel about it, though, MW already has a mechanism to group together several dozen similar articles & it works very well. With this, we have the choice of either making a standalone page and shoving it in the See Also section, or sticking the template into the page itself. Neither one of them is great for discoverability since the first one sticks it in a link that users will often ignore in favor of checking the categories, and the other grabs a ton of vertical space for information the user may or may not find useful. [[~~Special~~:~~Contributions/67.164.95.3~~\|~~67.164.95.3~~]] 07:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)		:::I see what you're saying- I'm not sure how I feel about it, though, MW already has a mechanism to group together several dozen similar articles & it works very well. With this, we have the choice of either making a standalone page and shoving it in the See Also section, or sticking the template into the page itself. Neither one of them is great for discoverability since the first one sticks it in a link that users will often ignore in favor of checking the categories, and the other grabs a ton of vertical space for information the user may or may not find useful. [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
			:::Maybe we can get the best of both worlds with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryMagicWords - the discoverability of putting what groups the articles belong to in the categories, with the improved L&F of the SMW template?

67.164.95.3 at 07:11, 1 September 2016

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	::Which can be included in a template and placed on any page, and dynamically updates. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)		::Which can be included in a template and placed on any page, and dynamically updates. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
			:::I see what you're saying- I'm not sure how I feel about it, though, MW already has a mechanism to group together several dozen similar articles & it works very well. With this, we have the choice of either making a standalone page and shoving it in the See Also section, or sticking the template into the page itself. Neither one of them is great for discoverability since the first one sticks it in a link that users will often ignore in favor of checking the categories, and the other grabs a ton of vertical space for information the user may or may not find useful. [[Special:Contributions/67.164.95.3\|67.164.95.3]] 07:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

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	I don't think this category is necessary at all. We can get the same thing with [[:Category:Decorations]] and [[:Category:Crafting]]. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 13:41, 30 August 2016 (UTC)		I don't think this category is necessary at all. We can get the same thing with [[:Category:Decorations]] and [[:Category:Crafting]]. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 13:41, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

	So should we be adding all craftables to [[:Category:Crafting]]? That's not currently happening and there's not right now anywhere to get a list of craftable deco. [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 18:01, 30 August 2016 (UTC)		:So should we be adding all craftables to [[:Category:Crafting]]? That's not currently happening and there's not right now anywhere to get a list of craftable deco. [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 18:01, 30 August 2016 (UTC)<br><br>
			::No, but they should be getting a category of what they are crafted with, such as [[:Category:Carpentry]], which is a sub-category of [[:Category:Crafting]]. Then we can use a query to pull them both, i.e.:
			{{#ask: [[Category:Decorations]] [[Category:Crafting]]
			\|mainlabel=-
			\|?has icon=Icon
			\|? = Item
			\|sort=,
			\| format=template
			\|template=Query item table
			\|introtemplate=Query crafted table intro
			\|outrotemplate=Query table outro
			\|link=none
			}}
			::Which can be included in a template and placed on any page, and dynamically updates. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

CanVox at 18:01, 30 August 2016

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	I don't think this category is necessary at all. We can get the same thing with [[:Category:Decorations]] and [[:Category:Crafting]]. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 13:41, 30 August 2016 (UTC)		I don't think this category is necessary at all. We can get the same thing with [[:Category:Decorations]] and [[:Category:Crafting]]. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 13:41, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
	So should we be adding all craftables to [[:Category:Crafting]]? That's not currently happening and there's not right now anywhere to get a list of craftable deco. [[~~Special~~:~~Contributions/38.104.129.210~~\|~~38.104.129.210~~]] 18:00, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
			So should we be adding all craftables to [[:Category:Crafting]]? That's not currently happening and there's not right now anywhere to get a list of craftable deco. [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 18:01, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

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	I don't think this category is necessary at all. We can get the same thing with [[:Category:Decorations]] and [[:Category:Crafting]]. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 13:41, 30 August 2016 (UTC)		I don't think this category is necessary at all. We can get the same thing with [[:Category:Decorations]] and [[:Category:Crafting]]. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 13:41, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
			So should we be adding all craftables to [[:Category:Crafting]]? That's not currently happening and there's not right now anywhere to get a list of craftable deco. [[Special:Contributions/38.104.129.210\|38.104.129.210]] 18:00, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

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I don't think this category is necessary at all. We can get the same thing with [[:Category:Decorations]] and [[:Category:Crafting]]. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson|talk]]) 13:41, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

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	:::Maybe we can get the best of both worlds with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryMagicWords - the discoverability of putting what groups the articles belong to in the categories, with the improved L&F of the SMW template? [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br><br>		:::Maybe we can get the best of both worlds with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryMagicWords - the discoverability of putting what groups the articles belong to in the categories, with the improved L&F of the SMW template? [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br><br>
	::::I took at look at that extension; as far as I can tell, it does the same thing I was proposing by moving the articles to a different namespace, and only showing them on queries. It should eliminate the search issues, unclog the categories, and still leave us with pages for each unique craftable. I'm going to plan on that change, as soon as we can get the additional namespaces set up. For now, I wouldn't worry about crafted items in the wiki. There seem to be a number of changes on the horizon, so I'd hate to have to make even more edits that we already will. There's a lot of other things that need attention tho! Thanks! --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 16:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)		::::I took at look at that extension; as far as I can tell, it does the same thing I was proposing by moving the articles to a different namespace, and only showing them on queries. It should eliminate the search issues, unclog the categories, and still leave us with pages for each unique craftable. I'm going to plan on that change, as soon as we can get the additional namespaces set up. For now, I wouldn't worry about crafted items in the wiki. There seem to be a number of changes on the horizon, so I'd hate to have to make even more edits that we already will. There's a lot of other things that need attention tho! Thanks! --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 16:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
			:::::Craftable and Craftable Decorations are two different things. I think adding an attribute "decoration" and setting it to "lot/town/no" is a good idea. This would allow people to then query the item AND it would show important information in the infobox that many people want to know. Did you know a fish was a decoration before it's mounted? Having that in the infobox helps people come up with the data faster and allows a better query for MW lists. Just a thought! [[User:Violation\|Violation]] ([[User talk:Violation\|talk]]) 07:41, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

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	::Which can be included in a template and placed on any page, and dynamically updates. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)		::Which can be included in a template and placed on any page, and dynamically updates. --[[User:Browncoat Jayson\|Browncoat Jayson]] ([[User talk:Browncoat Jayson\|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
	:::I see what you're saying- I'm not sure how I feel about it, though, MW already has a mechanism to group together several dozen similar articles & it works very well. With this, we have the choice of either making a standalone page and shoving it in the See Also section, or sticking the template into the page itself. Neither one of them is great for discoverability since the first one sticks it in a link that users will often ignore in favor of checking the categories, and the other grabs a ton of vertical space for information the user may or may not find useful. [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)		:::I see what you're saying- I'm not sure how I feel about it, though, MW already has a mechanism to group together several dozen similar articles & it works very well. With this, we have the choice of either making a standalone page and shoving it in the See Also section, or sticking the template into the page itself. Neither one of them is great for discoverability since the first one sticks it in a link that users will often ignore in favor of checking the categories, and the other grabs a ton of vertical space for information the user may or may not find useful. [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

	:::Maybe we can get the best of both worlds with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryMagicWords - the discoverability of putting what groups the articles belong to in the categories, with the improved L&F of the SMW template? [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)		:::Maybe we can get the best of both worlds with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryMagicWords - the discoverability of putting what groups the articles belong to in the categories, with the improved L&F of the SMW template? [[User:CanVox\|CanVox]] ([[User talk:CanVox\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)